Podcast Episode 5 – A Conversation with the Younger Generation

Young Adults

In this episode, Shonda has a conversation with the person who inspired her to begin the podcast. This person is of the younger generation and gives an insight into how he views real food and its challenges, yet how he also recognizes its necessity if one desires to live a healthy lifestyle.

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Discussion transcript for ‘A Conversation with the Younger Generation‘:

Shonda (00:00): Hi, it's Shonda. And today I get to interview a young gentleman that I'm really excited about having on the show today, who inspired me to begin this podcast by giving me the exact microphone we're using today as a gift on my 50th birthday, we're here.

Podcast Intro (with music) (00:00): Hi and hello. Welcome to the real food and drinks, lifestyle podcast. We're building a community to talk about nutrition, lifestyle choices, and just feeling better. This is Shonda and this is Patryce. Let's just be real.

Podcast Intro (with music) - continued (00:00): [Music continues] Here's our disclaimer. We do not professionally practice in any of the various subjects that we discuss. We are only sharing our personal experiences with you to a healthier lifestyle. Please do your own research before taking part in any of these practices.

Shonda (00:23):We finally made it. Steven, thank you for being my guest today. Hello. Hi. So, uh, introduce yourself.

Steven (00:30): Uh, my name is Steven Hector. I am 23 years old. My current occupation is a vehicle service technician. I live in college station right now.

Shonda (00:40): Okay. Everyone. Steven's my son. So I guess, uh, for all our guests, we'd like to ask, what's your definition of real food?

Steven (00:52): My definition of real food. Um, so real food. What I think humans should be consuming in general is naturally, you know, food that you can easily obtain, or you could obtain, you know, yourself depending on whether it's going to be grains or whether it's going to be, you know, vegetables, whether it's gonna be fruits, whether it's going to be, you know, animal products, you know, like by hunting or by gathering or by, you know, doing several of those, you know, what we used to do, how to get food. Um, I think that's like what real food is and, you know, just the way that you prepare it. Um, real food is for lack of a better term, you know, unprocessed or, you know, food that hasn't been altered or, you know, in any way,

Shonda (01:41): I must say that as Steven's mom, I was quite impressed with what he had collected over the years as I was learning what real food is, because I had to learn myself. I had to define that for myself. And that is where, um, the term real food and drinks came from. It was just like a philosophy I adopted or practice that I had to adopt when choosing the food that I would eat. And along the way, I just discovered that in order to get real food in a way that was the most natural I had to shop mostly in the produce section. Now over the years, uh, this all began about 10 years ago. And over the years I have come to the conclusion that for me, living a whole food plant based lifestyle is what's best for me. It's what energizes me. And I know that I'm getting those vital nutrients from food and not filling up on fat or lots of protein from eating animal foods.

Shonda (02:55): My body just responded so quickly to a whole food plant based lifestyle. And that's what I have finally adopted. And that is why if you visit real food and drinks.com, you will find that there are no longer any more recipes that contain meat. Because I feel like at this point, I don't have to convince you to create a meal around eating meat. If you still desire to eat meat, you can put your meat to the side. In addition to all the plant based recipes that are on the website, because the plant based recipes are, what's going to give you the missing nutrients that you may or likely to be missing from your diet. So I just want it to flood the website with whole food plant based, eating in order to inspire you. I have created a resource page. I'm not a practicing nutritionist. I'm just a real food coach.

Shonda (03:56): I want to coach you on how to eat real food. But on that resource page, there are links to doctors and research institutions where you can go and find the evidence of including more plant based foods in your diet in order to heal your body. So I encourage you to go to the real food and drinks website and start taking a look around and learning. And I do some videos every now and then too. There'll be posted at the website and I just want to encourage you to really, truly learn more about real food and what we can do to help our bodies heal and thrive and just be full of energy and life. Um, and one last thing I want to add here is that, uh, if you do choose to eat animal products, I hope that you will look a little deeper into where those animal products are coming from.

Shonda (05:03): You know, if you're not like my son said, if you're not hunting yourself or raising your own animals, let's say that if you're not raising your own animals and you don't know what those animals are eating, I encourage you to go look at farmer's markets and, um, try to find a farmer that's raising animal products in a way that, um, is best for your body. So that would be grass fed, pasture raised animals. So let's get back to the conversation. So now that you have this knowledge, how often do you apply this knowledge to your lifestyle?

Steven (05:45): It's been varying, you know, since I've moved out, I'm working full time. A lot of people don't have time to prepare themselves real food. And, you know, people, you know, including me, you know, when I lived, you know, work or live outside of the house, I purchased a lot of like, you know, fast food things that have been altered and stuff. And it has, you know, reduced my health slightly. I mean, I eat tons enough junk food to make myself obese or make myself sick, you know, but my, you know, my metabolism, I guess, is high enough to, you know, burn all these calories or, you know, process this food. But you know, I'm not, it's not nutrition, it's just calories and I'm taking it at this point. Um, you know, real food will fill you up, you know, both satisfy the caloric, you know, want that your body needs, but also will help you build, you know, other parts of your body.

Shonda (06:35): Okay. Since Steven seemed to be on a roll meaning that he was saying things that I would normally say, so I'm just going to let him keep talking. Although I wasn't too happy to hear that my son's diet is poor and he knows it let's continue with the conversation.

Steven (06:56): So taking the upbeat you considered underweight. Um, but I still use these same guidelines and the things that I do try to consume if I do consume a lot of these fast foods, I'll try to make sure, I at least have it balanced out to where I have at least some type of vegetable or at least some type of, you know, fruit on the side or whatever, even though that's not ideal, you ideally want to be filling most of your diet up with like the real foods and then those junk foods and stuff like that can just be a snack and needs to be like very small portion, kind of like a treat it just as long as you can consume mostly real food. You know, even though the goal is eating only real food, if you can, that that balance needs to be very biased towards real food. Um, cause if you think about it like this, it goes back to the old saying, saying that, you know, you are what you eat and your body literally is having to replace itself with whatever you consume, anything that you consume as far as like, you know, right now he could, I could probably be based on made a whole bunch of bread and chicken nuggets.

Shonda (07:57): Oh my goodness. I hope not. But in reality, that is the truth. Um, that we have a lot of people who are eating fast foods. It's very popular in the young adults. And probably, um, more than that older adults too, because of convenience, like we talked about earlier, my son also mentioned about eating balanced with real food and yes, the goal is to eat more real food. We all have to start somewhere. We all have to start implementing the idea that we need to eat more real food than the other stuff. You know, that we're eating that we know that's not good for us, but sometimes it does come to a point when we, especially as we get older, you know, right now my son's younger. So he has a little bit more flexibility and, and most young adults do. And some don't because we still are hearing that, you know, young adults are getting diagnosed with diabetes and high blood pressure and, you know, things like that. So it really is an individual thing, but the real goal and the real hope of mine is that young people were realized that they could start building a better, healthier life for themselves now, and that they won't have to run into a brick wall like I did at the age of 30, after the birth of my third child. I hope this is encouraging to you who are listening right now. And let's get back to the conversation

Steven (09:41): Again, like your body is using several different types of ways to synthesize these proteins and all the other carbohydrates and things that we need, you know, to build our bodies. Um, but we struggle a lot when you eat junk food,

Shonda (09:56): You know, just today I was listening to, um, the food revolution, you know, I was reminded, you know, like the body's constantly trying to replace, you know, its cells. And they said, stomach cells, you know, get replaced like every five days, the skin, every seven days, your red blood cells, four months liver, five months, you know, and then there's some other things in between their bones are 10 years, you know, with the brain

Steven (10:24): Brain is I think it's seven years brain. Your neurons will last about seven years before they're replaced. And all of that has to come into factor. Like, I mean your teeth and bones, stuff like that. If you like, you know, one thing that we try to strive to get out of our diet, even though that's probably a part of something that we should eat is some of the dirt. And some of the things that we get from just eating, not very sanitized food, but, um, I guess you could say, you know, still clean, like we'd cleaned it, but you still get some of those trace minerals and stuff. And a lot of those things you can't get out of such some of the sterile food we right.

Shonda (11:01): Yeah. I agree. Totally. And that's why one of the things, uh, I know vitam, I was just doing research on vitamin K-2 today because you're supposed to take that with your vitamin D, which is from the sun and vitamin K-2, um, can be obtained through fermented foods. And, you know, I used to ferment a lot of foods now I need to get back to fermented foods. I have my favorite recipe that is really delicious. Even people who haven't had sauerkraut before, it's I call it sauerkraut, cause it's mostly cabbage, but they really liked this one, you know? Cause it's a little sweet, you know, the one with the pineapple and the purple cabbage, cilantro... Yeah. So I'm, I'm about to make a batch of that, but it is true that dirt is good for you. Um, yes it is. I mean, we're talking about clean dirt, you know, there is a such thing as clean dirt,

Steven (11:56): The minerals in it, the sediment and stuff.

Shonda (11:59): Well, you know, I, I, you know, I eat my dirt, my dirt, my Terramin clay. I do, uh, ingest clay. It's a cleaner clay and it's by Terramin. So I do that too, but I'm still reminded about when you go out into the garden and garden, you know, you, don't only just get, uh, microbes from things that you eat, but from things that you breathe, you know, you breathe those microbes in the dirt when you're, you know, stirring the dirt and, and, you know, mixing it up or watering it or planting new plants and seeds and things like that. And I recall, uh, Mama Mil, she tells me this story about how her younger, I think it was her younger brother was sickly child. The doctor told, told the, parent put the child outside and let him play in the dirt. And so there's a lot to say for, you know, fresh air.

Shonda (12:52): That's what it's all about. Fresh air, fresh dirt. Personally. I recall feeling super healthy for one time when I actually tended a garden that we had in our backyard. And this is something that I intend to do again, this fall, it had to be being out in the dirt, touching the dirt, breathing the dirt, eating the fresh foods directly from the garden. And I cannot help, but to interject right here about grounding and earthing, grounding, and earthing is something that I've come to realize that was missing in my life. And I guess I was getting it when I was gardening, but recently I've been reintroduced to it. And I want to encourage you if you haven't seen that on the website yet about grounding and earthing, there is an article there and it's just all about the lifestyle. So go check it out. Let's get back to the conversation. Yeah. So that, that's what we're talking about. We're talking about real food and drinks lifestyle. So we're not just talking about food. Food is a big part of it, but we also want to talk about the lifestyle, all the other things we need to do in addition to being concerned about what we're eating. Okay. So is there anything else you want to, uh, let our community know or anything else on your mind?

Steven (14:25): I mean, this it's just real important. You all, to really understand like it, you can feel much better, you know, consuming the correct amount of foods or the correct foods. Um, because food is not supposed to make you feel bad, like after you eat it, you know what I mean? You're not people get tired and sleepy and stuff like that, which, you know, some of us like to be able to get full and just go to bed, you know, like, so that's how some people like to live, you know, their lives and stuff, but you know, you're just supposed to be fuel. It's supposed to fuel and it's supposed to keep you alive and keep going.

Shonda (14:54): So this has been good. And I was just gonna jokingly ask Steven, uh, did you give me this microphone so that I would have other people to talk to and not keep drilling it down all of you?

Steven (15:07): Kind of that too. I mean, like it, it's something that needs to be talked about in general. There's a lot of people that are coming up, you know, like you that have something real to say, and a lot of popular media and stuff won't cover it because it's not, it's not necessarily a profitable or it's not a popular opinion, you know? And like it takes bravery to expose them to the truth sometimes. And like, that's kind of why I got you. This microphone is so that the truth can be unleashed and told to people, um, or at least what we think is true, you know, um, you know, sharing our, sharing our truth. And that's the only thing that you can really vouch for in life. You can't, you know, you can say all the things you find on like other, you know, like on media or like, you know, you know, Wikipedia or anything like that, you can only, you can only 100% vouch for your personal experiences. That's about it. Um, like everything else.

Shonda (16:00): Yeah. And that's what we're here for. We're here to explore other things and other ideas from other people and allow them to share their experiences too, and to just share our experiences and what has worked for us and, you know, and to just keep looking and keep learning.

Steven (16:17): Yeah. More than the more people that you interview and the more people that would like to come on here and share their story, you know, but on both ways people need to, you know, would like to step up and like, you know, say what their opinion is. And like you'd be able to interview them and talk to them about like, why they feel this way or what the evidence supporting, why they decided to eat or live their life a certain way. And that's, what's important is that we have the long discussion about it and not just making sides and, um, you know, causing conflict. Like, let's talk about it. Let's, you know, let's get the facts out there.

Shonda (16:51): Yeah. I agree. So, yeah, that's been really good. I want to thank you for coming on the show today. The Real Food and Drinks Lifestyle podcast show, and thanks for your inspiration and getting this started. I just say thank you. Yeah. Thank you.

Steven (17:11): I had to be on here. Maybe I'll come back another time and I'll be, you know, eating real food.

Shonda (17:15): Yeah. Okay. Well, we'll see what we can do about that. So thanks for joining us today. So there we have it, I really was excited that we finally had the opportunity to just sit down and, and have a discussion. And I think he recognizes something more than I did is that we really do need to sit down and have real conversations about real food. Um, so I'm willing to do that with anyone who would like to have a conversation about it. I'm always, always ready to have a conversation about real food and discuss ways that we can help one another adopt a healthier lifestyle. So I'm looking forward to the future of this podcast. And once again, I want to send a shout out to Steven, Steven, thank you so much. And I will see you all soon.

Shonda (18:17): Thanks for listening. We hope you enjoy today's podcast. Remember you can catch show notes and additional details at realfoodanddrinks.com under the podcast menu. Also, subscribe to our podcast if you aren't already a member of our community. And if listening through Anchor, please send us a message of topics you would like to hear us have conversations about until next time. Let's just be real.

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Vegan Sweet Potato Pie

vegan sweet potato pie

Here is a vegan sweet potato pie recipe that I found on YouTube. For now, this will be the one I’ll be making to bring to the holiday gatherings. In the past, I have always been asked to bring desserts. Are desserts my specialty? Hmm…well, we will see what happens this year because anything I bring will be plant-based. I hope you like it.

More desserts/sweets for you to try.

Cucumber Caesar Salad Dressing

Cucumber Caesar Salad

I made the dressing not knowing what I would use for the salad ingredients, but I’m happy that I found this Cucumber Caesar Salad Dressing combination and I wanted to share it with you right away.

I decided to try this dressing because my daughter likes Caesar salad dressings.

And I enjoy cucumbers, especially when I can find really great tasting ones. That usually means a trip to the Farmers Market though. Yet, sometimes I find that the mini packaged cucumbers taste good too. Yet, the best cucumbers I’ve ever had were those that I grew in my own garden. I wish you the best in finding some good cucumbers for this salad.

Caesar Salad Dressing


  • 1/4 cup raw cashews
  • 1/8 cup raw pine nuts, or raw sesame seeds (I didn’t have either, so I used tahini paste.)
  • 3 TBSP freshly squeezed lemon juice
  • 1 clove garlic
  • 1 tsp miso paste (I used a mellow white. See note* below.)
  • 1/2 tsp sea salt
  • 1/2 tsp kelp granules (I used powdered kelp.)
  • 1 tsp honey, or liquid sweetener of choice
  • 1/4 cup of water (I added more for a thinner version.)
  • 1 TBS extra virgin olive oil, optional (Omit for oil-free version).


  1. Mix all the ingredients in a small food processor or in a blender until smooth.

*Note about miso paste: If miso paste is kept in the freezer it will last for at least a year. It never freezes solid, so it’s easy to measure out what you need as you need it.

Cucumber Caesar Salad

SERVE:  I served over a salad of sliced cucumbers, split cherry tomatoes and chopped celery. I will definitely make this Cucumber Caesar Salad again in the near future (like tomorrow).

It is so YUMMY! It’s quick and easy. I hope you will try it soon.

Click for more salad dressing recipes.

Watch Creamy Cumin Ranch Oil-Free Salad Dressing and a Vegan Tex-Mex Salad on YouTube.

Chickpea Salad Spread (Vegan Chicken and Tuna)

Chickpea Salad Dip Spread

…for Sandwiches, Wraps and Crackers

This chickpea salad spread has two options.  It can be prepared as “chicken” salad or “tuna” salad substitutes.  See “tuna” flavor salad add-in options below under the ingredients section.

Ingredients: Of course substitutions can be made for many of these ingredients, but this list serves as a general guideline.

  • One 15 ounce can of chickpeas (or 1 1/2 cup home cooked), drained and rinsed
  • 1 stalk of celery
  • 1 green onion (or 2 TBS red/white/yellow onion or 1 scallion), finely chopped
  • 1 – 2 TBS tahini (or homemade vegan mayo or any dressing of your choice)
  • 1 1/2 tsp mustard of choice
  • 1/4 cup of nuts (pecans, walnuts, almonds, etc)
  • 1 – 2 TBS dried cranberries
  • 2 tsp fresh lemon juice
  • Chickpea salad dip and spreaddash of paprika
  • salt and pepper, to your liking

Add-ins for the “tuna” flavor: One or the other will do just fine

  • 1 sheet of nori seaweed, crumbled
  • 4 mini sheets of any nori seaweed snacks
  • 1/2 – 1 tsp of kelp powder


  1. Add all the ingredients to a food processor then mix/chop.  Or mash the chickpeas with a fork and then add remaining ingredients.


I offered the chickpea “chicken” version salad to someone who had never tried anything similar to this before. I was informed that he was not a fan of hummus. I put the spread into a tortilla wrap with avocado and jalapenos. After the first bite, the response was, “Not bad.” But when the plate was empty, he asked for the recipe.

More chickpea recipes:

The Need for Exercise

“Do you go to a grocery store for milk, bread and vegetables instead of milking your cow, grinding your grain and tending your garden?” This is just one of example of our modern conveniences that Stormie Omartian points out in her book Greater Health God’s Way. Modern conveniences have replaced many activities that would require us to move more. (I’m not going to comment here on why you should still milk your own cow or find someone who does – if you still drink cow’s milk. Perhaps I’ll link to another article later. Let’s talk about the importance of exercise.)

Exercise Improves Circulation.

Your body requires movement. One very important process that depends on the movement of your body is circulation. In a nutshell, circulation helps your blood flow while it carries nutrients to important organs and remove toxic wastes to be eliminated. A few signs and symptoms of impaired circulation are:

  • Numbness in extremities
  • Fatigue
  • Chest pains (due to reduced blood flow to the heart)
  • Brain Fog (inability to think sharply or stay focused)

Benefits of improving circulation can be:

  • Increased energy (due to increased oxygen levels)
  • Increased metabolism (speeds up the body processes that maintain life)
  • Better heart functioning
  • A focused mind and clearer thinking
  • Feel and look healthier

Exercise for weight loss?

Yes, we all know that we can burn extra calories while exercising. But, let’s not make that the focus. If you focus on burning calories, you may give up if you don’t see the scale moving down or burn yourself out by doing too much exercise. Instead, our focus should be to exercise for health benefits as a whole. And as we become healthier, our bodies will tend to “go” towards our ideal weight without feeling as if we had to work so hard to get there. When I say “work hard” I mean physically exerting our bodies to the point where we are doing more harm than good.  In the beginning you may feel that you are “working hard” to implement exercise within your new lifestyle. Yet, this is normal when implementing any new change. I want to encourage you to be excited about the change and the changes ahead for how adding exercise to your routine is going to reap rewards.

Exercise relieves tension and stress.

Exercising naturally releases endorphins which are  “feel-good” hormones. These endorphins can lift your spirit and relieve depression. As you more regularly practice exercise you will gain energy that will allow you to do more activities that you enjoy and even better handle the regular ins-and-outs of daily living. In addition to the endorphins, your body is detoxifying while you exercise through the various pathways that it has in order to do so. Getting rid of toxic chemicals and built up lactic acid will eliminate anxiety and help you to feel calmer too.

Exercise can also provide these additional benefits:

  • More endurance
  • Helps prevent constipation
  • Improve digestion
  • More muscles and more strength
  • Increase flexibility and balance
  • Cut cravings for junk food
  • Detoxification (through sweat and increased lymph circulation)
  • Improve attitude
  • Better sleep and relaxation

Ways to Exercise

Walking on a stationary treadmill or riding a stationary bike is not my idea of fun. Actually, I’m one to try to implement exercise into my daily life that will allow me to get some chores accomplished at the same time. For example, I have a manual push lawn mower (avoids gasoline fumes and strengthens my muscles).

Yet, if not accomplishing a chore, then I rather enjoy exercise! When you find an activity that is fun, then it’s more likely that you will keep doing it. Agree? And even some of these can be just as relaxing as they are fun and enjoyable.

Here are some exercises that can be easy to implement.

  • Walking – alone or with a friend or family member
  • Dancing – by yourself or with a partner or in a class setting
  • House Cleaning – such as cleaning floors, doing laundry or anything that requires reaching, bending and/or squatting
  • Gardening and lawn care – which regularly requires raking, digging, pulling weeds, bending

And more formal forms of exercise that can be just as enjoyable:

Bicycling for exercise
  • Bicycling
  • Swimming
  • Jogging/running
  • Aerobics
  • Yoga
  • Pilates
  • Lifting weights

NOTE: Stretching your muscles is automatic through most activities involved with exercising and it will help improve circulation. So don’t leave stretching out of your daily activities.

Let me know what types of exercises you enjoy. Send me a message if I have forgotten to list one of your favorites. Thanks.

Vegan Meringue Cookies – Using Aquafaba

meringue cookies

Yes, vegan meringue is possible using aquafaba. Aquafaba is the left over water after cooking dried beans or legumes. The only one I’ve ever used is that which I have after cooking chickpeas/garbanzo beans. I think chickpea water is the most popular one for most recipes. (See the aquafaba recipe below.)

I cannot eat pure sugar, so these cookies are not for me, but I wanted to make a dessert that my daughters might enjoy and for those of you who might enjoy them too.  But really, I just wanted to try to try a substitute for egg whites to create a meringue cookie. And it works great!

Oh, and before you get started, the recipe below calls for the use of a pastry bag with a star (decorative) end. You can use a pastry bag with a hole cut in the bottom. Or simply use a spoon to plop the meringue onto the cookie sheets. Don’t worry…these cookies will taste the same once baked no matter what “shape” they are in.

Once baked and cooled, the cookies will be crispy. Store in an airtight container to keep away from moisture or they will lose their crispiness. Also, keep them away from heat because they will melt.

Leftover Vegan Meringue…

I had left over meringue, so I decided to make vegan lemon meringues desserts. Not pie, because I didn’t want to make a crust. I used this recipe . This recipe also contains good tips on making the lemon curd thicker (such as using agar agar flakes). I simply used the basic recipe even without the vegan butter. There is also a link to vegan pie crust recipe and suggestions for store-bought brands.

Leftover aquafaba…

I always like to keep aquafaba available for use in some requires that list eggs as an ingredient. I often use aquafaba in pancakes and cookies. But, if I don’t use the aquafaba right away, I freeze some in ice cube trays for later use.

How to make aquafaba

I enjoy using chickpeas in many recipes, therefore, I always have aquafaba on hand. I think chickpeas and pinto beans are my favorite legumes. Although, I’ve never used pinto aquafaba in any recipes…I supposed that you could, but it would give it a pink tint for sure.

I prefer to soak the chickpeas overnight (or at least 8 hours). Note: The cooking times below refer to soaked chickpeas.

Drain off the soaking water, prior to cooking.

Instantpot: Cover with 1 inch of water. Stovetop: Cover with 2 inches of water.

Instantpot: Cook for 13 minutes. Stovetop: Bring to boil for 1 minute, then simmer on low for about an hour.

I usually use a spoon to remove some of the froth that appears in the pot after cooking.

Strain the aquafaba into a container for later use.

Ta da! Chickpea Aquafaba

I usually put the chickpeas into the freezer for later use in soups, salads, hummus, and stir-fries.

More Vegan “Sweet” Desserts

Grounding – More Food from the Earth

The Earth Sustains Life

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“The earth was created to sustain life.” – I hope to affirm this for you on a deeper level. Because not only does the earth provide soil for us to grow healthy foods which we can eat, but it provides antioxidants in another surprising way – which you may not yet be aware of… even though most of us have already experienced this phenomenon.

On one of my regular Monday night YouTube Live Chats with Dr. Baxter Montgomery the discussion was “Ways to Protect Yourself from EMF and Wi-Fi”(see link #1 below). I was quite interested in the subject already. I had purchased an EMF meter to test how much EMF Radiation was being emitted in certain areas of our home. Also, now, there is current “talk” about the 5G towers and possible ill-health effects they can cause by exposing us to even greater amounts of EMF Radiation…all amid the COVID-19 health crisis. (Whew! We definitely need a break.)

Back to the Monday night YouTube Live Chat: at 45 minutes and 26 seconds, the presenter mentions that one way to protect ourselves from EMF Radiation is by going outside and walking barefoot on the earth. This suggestion was only discussed for 41 seconds, but it caught my attention because he also mentions the phrase “working in the soil”. This phrase evoked my memory of about 7 years ago when I was spending a great amount of time outdoors in our garden with my bare hands in the dirt. (It was somewhat of a raised garden so it did not have many earthworms, for those of you who know how terrified I am of worms and am least likely to touch the dirt with my bare hands. But I did it for the entire season which I gardened which was from February until the next frost – so about November.)

During the 7 years that followed, I would often find myself pondering about what was different about that year. It was 2013 actually. I had photos that were constant reminders of how healthier I felt and how more relaxed I was in 2013. 

What could be so good about the year I gardened? My guesses were that I was:

  • getting certain microbes from being outdoors by handling dirt with my hands, and
  • by eating the fresh produce of our garden I was getting extra nutrients

All of these things are positive outcomes of gardening, without a doubt. I knew at the time was that it was an enjoyable experience. But what I was not aware of is that I was being grounded by touching the earth with my hands. 

How about you? Do you garden or do landscaping work? Or perhaps you appreciate walking along the beach while barefoot or being barefoot in the cool green grass? Apparently, there are so many reasons to enjoy these activities and I think most of all is the process of being grounded.

Antioxidants for Detoxification

You have probably heard of an indoor outlet being grounded.

“…the grounding system in a residential wiring system serves a ‘backup’ pathway that provides an alternate route for electrical current to follow back to ‘ground’ in the case of a problem in the wiring system.”  (see link #2 below)

We will refer back to indoor grounded outlets later.

But, just like indoor outlets we can be grounded too. The terms used for this process is called “Grounding” or “Earthing”. We can experience grounding/earthing while walking barefoot on the earth’s natural surfaces such as grass, dirt, rocks and sand.

ANTIOXIDANTS – Grounding/Earthing “allows our bodies to soak up negatively charged ions from the earth.

These ions [from the earth] neutralize the positively charge ions [free radicals] that we accumulate from EMFs.” – Ways to Protect Yourself form EMF and Wi-Fi

Why You Should Practice Grounding/Earthing

We’ve all heard that we need to eat antioxidant rich foods to clean up free radicals in our bodies. Free radicals are caused by the consumption of poor foods (such as those containing chemicals and pesticides), air pollution, EMFs, medications, overdoing exercises that deplete oxygen intake and many more causes. Yet, antioxidants are molecules that donate an electron to free radicals – without forming or becoming free radicals in the process! When we are being grounded, we take in antioxidants, negative ions from the earth, that bond with free radicals, positive ions.

Grounding/Earthing can provide you with extra antioxidants to improve your health. Here are a few of the most common benefits of grounding that you may experience:

  • Better Sleep
  • Pain/Inflammation Reduction
  • Look and feel more vibrant
  • Stress relief
  • Speeds healing and recovery
  • Calms your nervous system
  • Increases blood flow

My Personal Experience with Grounding/Earthing

The very next day after viewing that YouTube video about EMFs and grounding I decided to start walking barefoot in a small garden area of my backyard. Before this, I would often go outside to feel the warmth of the sun and to hopefully soak in some Vitamin D, but I always would wear shoes outdoors. I walked outdoors barefoot for three days in a row but because we have been battling ants in our lawn I was being bitten each day and just the day before publishing this article I stepped into an ant mound! Yet, to my amazement, the ant bites never itched and they didn’t even produce the usual itchy bump which usually lasts for a few days. This was strange. The only explanation I could guess at was that because I was grounded I didn’t have my usual inflammatory response.

After day three I started more research. I was curious about how the protection from EMFs really worked so I searched online for more YouTube videos. I found someone who explained how to measure how much voltage my body was conducting using a device called a Multimeter.

Here is a Multimeter Test video which I made especially for you.

After conducting the tests and actually being able to see that the voltage I was conducting would drop as a result of placing my bare feet on the earth, I knew I wanted to ground (practice earthing) as much as I possibly could.

Grounding/Earthing Indoors Is Possible Too

Remember the indoor “grounded” outlets that I mentioned above? Well, they are very useful if you wish to be grounded indoors. You can connect tools that are specifically made for the purpose of grounding indoors if you have grounded outlets in your home, office, or any indoor location. Click here to order your earthing mat.

Earthing universal mat
The mats plug into the grounding port of a grounded receptacle. Use of a special tester checks for proper “earth” grounding.

I discovered these tools existed after watching “The Earthing Movie” (see link #3 below).

By using the indoor tools you can increase the amount of time you are able to be grounded. I’ve been using products that “ground” me while I sleep and while I’m working at my desk.

The main benefits I’ve noticed are:

  • More relaxed
  • Better, refreshing sleep
  • Less menstrual cramping (after just one month of grounding, it’s a female thing)
  • A persistent pain that I’d had in my shoulder for many months has subsided (At my last visit with the chiropractor he didn’t find the usual knots he would point out at every monthly visit). Perhaps, this is less stress and less inflammation? Whatever the cause, the effect is that the pain is gone!

We (Modern Societies) Have Lost Our Connection to the Earth

Contact with the earth’s surface used to be automatic and definitely more likely with earlier lifestyles. With more and more modern day inventions we are becoming more removed from our connection to the Earth. By the early 1900s, rubber soled shoes were increasing tremendously in popularity and by the 1960s almost all shoe designs were available with rubber soles, especially athletic footwear. This was definitely a point in time when we became more disconnected from the earth (more than we ever had been before) and with this we can definitely see that there has been a rise in sickness and disease. (Additionally, do not forget, that our modern society has also implemented poor practices of growing and packaging foods which contain pesticides and are also highly laden with toxic chemicals. Most foods these days are also lower in nutrients due to the way they are processed and refined. Read my Real Food Guide if you need help navigating the food system.)

I know I’ve presented you with much information here. Yet, I hope this information has been eye-opening for you and has provided you with an additional tool you can use to boost your health. For me, this has been such a great gift of knowledge from which most of us have become disconnected. Don’t forget to watch “The Earthing Movie”.

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Until next time, remember:

“It’s all about the real food you eat starting with the ground beneath your feet.” — Shonda


  1. Ways to Protect Yourself form EMF and Wi-Fi” by Monday night YouTube Live Chats with Dr. Baxter Montgomery
  2. Definition of a grounding system
  3. The Earthing Movie [The movie features Clint Ober, who is the pioneer of indoor electrical grounding.]

UPDATE: It’s been two months and I’m thoroughly enjoying the “indoor” earthing products that I’ve mentioned in this article. We used to be connected to the earth almost 24/7. These products can help you stay more connected. Below is Video #2 in which I review two different types of sleeping mattress covers.

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Podcast Episode 4 – Immunity – Water (Drinking and Bathing)

Welcome back to our Immunity Series. Today, more than ever, it’s important to take care of your immune system, so today let’s look into how making good water decisions can benefit you. Perhaps you have never truly thought about the importance of water and specifically water as an important nutrient. We hope to encourage you to take a deeper look into the water you are drinking and the water you are bathing in. 

We invite you to listen and share your perspectives with us too. Send us a recorded message through Speakpipe. We may use your message in an upcoming episode. Leave your name if you would like it to be noted during the podcast. Leave an email address if you would like a personal response or feel free to use the contact form.

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Discussion transcript for Immunity Series – Water:

Shonda (00:01): Well, I stopped taking showers altogether.

Shonda (00:04): Hi, this is Shonda and yes, that was truly a statement of mine. This week Patryce and I are discussing water, Perhaps you've never truly thought about the importance of water and specifically water as being an important nutrient. We hope to encourage you to take a deeper look into the water you are drinking and bathing in.

Podcast Intro (with music) (00:37): Hi and hello. Welcome to the real food and drinks, lifestyle podcast. We're building a community to talk about nutrition, lifestyle choices, and just feeling better. This is Shonda and this is Patryce. Let's just be real.

Podcast Intro (with music) - continued (01:03): [Music continues] Here's our disclaimer. We do not professionally practice in any of the various subjects that we discuss. We are only sharing our personal experiences with you to healthier lifestyle. Please do your own research before taking part in any of these practices.

Shonda (01:24): I originally started researching water at least three years ago. You know, I just wasn't feeling my best or I wasn't feeling hydrated or what brought it on mostly was that I was having the stomach bloating from IBS. And along with that, I was having like bladder urgency with that. And I'm like, I'm drinking all this water. Why doesn't it stick? You know, why isn't it sticking in me? Um, I'm trying to, you know, get it in. And the first thing that I discovered was that of the two waters I was drinking, both were reverse osmosis water. One was a home system. I had a reverse osmosis system under my sink and I was drinking that water. And the other time it was bottled. And, you know, I mean, when we read the back of the bottle, it says, treated by reverse osmosis filtration. And so...

Patryce (02:24): Can you give a short description of what reverse osmosis means?

Shonda (02:30): What happens is through the filtration process? And it's filtered through a number of different processes. I mean, even this reverse osmosis system had like two or three stages to it, of filtration, but the end result is a water that no longer contains minerals.

Shonda (02:52): And that's where we get into problems because, you know, we don't want to drink water void of minerals. I mean, that's the purpose. I mean, the minerals in it help keep us hydrated. You know, the minerals have, have nutrients, water should be a nutrient. I really used to study the Gerson therapy and they don't recommend drinking water at all. And I think it's because of this reason is because you can't trust the water source or, you know, people may not be researching the water as fully to understand that that water is doing more damage than good because the Gerson therapy was all about getting the most nutrition you can in everything you eat and everything you drink. So if the water was empty of nutrients, you know, there's really no reason to drink it. So then I took that out. I was like, Oh my goodness, we've been drinking the wrong water, you know, and I started doing research.

Shonda (03:57): So there are systems that can filter water to make it more drinkable, like city, tap, water, more drinkable. There's so many water reports out there. And if you look at, I think it's the FDA and the EPA they both monitor water and make suggestions. Let's see, the EPA regulates public drinking water and the FDA regulates bottled drinking water. And they have reports out there. And I mean, when you're looking at the reports about what's in water...okay. So they have recommended safety standards or guidelines. And I mean, and so water is being tested for over 200 contaminants. Tap water is. There's two... there's... I mean, there's even more than that, but that was, I know I counted at least 200 on the report where, you know, if you have these contaminants in your water, here are the safe level supposedly. And it's really interesting.

Shonda (05:00): The show notes will have a link to an article and then the article will have a link to FDA and EPA to read and to better understand what's happening to our city tap water systems. But there are systems supposedly that do extract most of these things. So I would not, I don't drink city, tap water, not on a regular basis. So it is highly recommended that you get a really good system to filter your city, tap water if you plan on drinking it. Yeah. Cause there's even carcinogens in the city tap water.

Patryce (05:39): Wow. And I guess you can... Is that one of the reports you're talking about that you can get?

Shonda (05:44): Yeah. The report is it just lists all of the possible contaminants or the contaminants that they found in water. And I guess this is us US FDA and EPA. These are acceptable limits, but next to the next to the contaminant, it will say if it's a high carcinogen type, uh contaminant or things. So it was ranked, they, there are ranks on carcinogens. That was pretty interesting that, that they, right, that they decided to, or felt it was needed to show the different rankings of how this contaminant specifically ranked as a carcinogen. So that was very interesting.

Shonda (06:34): When I originally started looking about three years ago, and this was, I think rather kind of new, a new chemical, it was called chloramine. So I started, when I wrote (rewrote), this article, I wrote about chloramine because I had noticed that when taking a shower, my eyes just would hurt. They would be red after. And even sometimes it felt like I couldn't breathe when I was in the shower. Cause I take really hot showers. I like hot water. And so how water makes the chlorine and chloramine more volatile, I guess it opens it up and it separates it from the water, I guess. And, and you know, when we're breathing in it, it causes more issues. Chloramine is a combination of chlorine and ammonia.

Patryce (07:26): What a? Ooph, that sounds volatile. Just those two.

Shonda (07:29): Yes. We know how volatile ammoonia is. So if we're taking baths in city, hot, hot city, tap water, you know, I guess if you're, if you... Hey, if you do cold showers and that's good, but I can't do a cold shower. So...

Patryce (07:45): I may start though.

Shonda (07:48): Well, I stopped taking showers altogether because of this. It was that it affected me that much. So I would take a bath or use a bath ball and I wouldn't even use that many. Yeah. I still cleaned!

Patryce (08:02): Just wanted to clarify that for everyone.

Shonda (08:06): Yes. But I just used a bath tub. (Patryce: Okay.) And try to filter it as best as I can. And I am hopefully planning on putting more of a filter on the house to get a cleaner source of, of bathing water. I think that's important too, when we expose our skin to water, it's taking in the water and all the things that are in the water. So we want to be careful of that.

Patryce (08:31): And because we want to be careful of that. I'm sorry. Did you mention something that before you get that whole house filtration, is there something we can put into our bath water to help with?

Shonda (08:41): Well, Okay...So, you can, if you're running bath water, or even a shower head, there are filters that I'm not sure about the chloramine. Maybe now there are, but I think the chloramine is... A more expensive type filter needed to remove chloramine. And also recently I don't, I believe it's effective, but I don't know how effective this process would be for a whole bathtub of water is to ozonate your water. Now that's something really new. It's called ozone to ozonate - to infuse the water with ozone to remove the contaminants. Yes. So that's new. That's something that I have not tried yet, but of course, naturally I'm looking forward to trying. So I'm trying, I'm in the process of researching a system right now. I think of water as a nutrient. You know, like I said, we don't just want to take in any kind of water because it's not going to benefit us.

Shonda (09:43): I think my next research led me to just start looking at bottled water. So the most common that we find in the grocery store is, uh, called purified water. According to USDA that is produced by distillation, De-ionization, reverse osmosis and something like that. But it also, and the FDA even says this, can be called de mineralized water. (Patryce: Wow.) Yeah. So that doesn't sound like a good thing, you know? Um, so it's highly likely that most of the bottled water labeled purified water is also labeled drinking water or filtered water. These waters have been, uh, treated by these systems. And normally they're just city tap water, that's been treated, you know. They demineralize it to get everything out - the contaminants and the nutrients come right along with it. And so my belief that it's not ideal for drinking on a regular basis. Now, you know, if that's all that's available for you that day drink the water, you know, but, um, but try on a regular basis when you decide what water you're going to drink. Um, we just need to look further into the choices that we're making.

Patryce (11:08): Now, there are other bottled waters that when I, if I'm at a grocery store, I want to choose spring water is one of them or artesian water. Spring water is derived from an underground formation from which water flows naturally to the surface. So there's something, you know, at some point it is underground, but it comes back up to the surface. Spring water may be collected at the spring or through a borehole, you know, by tapping into the underground formation. So that's the definition of spring water. I think we still have to be careful when we're looking into bottled waters, no matter what it is, because even though the source may have more natural minerals and things, because it's been underground and it's coming up naturally from a water source, the way that the company treats it, once they gather it can have detrimental effects on it.

Shonda (12:11): One company that I researched, which is very popular, I know here in Texas where I am, they actually bring it from a spring, but during transport, while there, after they gather it, they treat it with chlorine. (Patryce: Oh wow.) They treat it with chlorine during the transport. And right before bottling, they remove the chlorine. I choose not to drink that one because of that. And you can find all this information on websites, go to the company's website and look up their water reports and their processes. If they aren't open enough to tell you about all those. And I wouldn't even drink their water.

Patryce (12:51): Good point...good point.

Shonda (12:55): I mean, I would drink their water over the regular purified water that comes from the city tap, but on a longterm basis, that's not the one that I chose. Before I get there though. I want to say, I guess this is in both cases though, we want to choose spring water or artesian water that has only undergone like, um, carbon filtration or sand filter. And, and one of the processes they use is ozone... Ozonating water. That's a process that some companies, uh, spring or artesian water ... or companies use or passing water through an ultraviolet light. I read that ultraviolet light can eliminate the chloramine in there. So that was interesting. Yeah. I mean, I wonder if there are ultra violet violet lights that we can get to purify our water. It's just also interesting, especially with technology today, the way that it can be created for, um, personal consumer use, you know, I'm sure some of these things, more of these things are available and becoming available.

Shonda (14:09): And it's a good thing because we're getting more contaminants in our environment. I drink artesian water it comes from an artesian. Well, I list a lot of them in the article that I wrote that will be available as a show note to this, I drink artesian water because they do have to go underground to get it. So it hasn't come up to the top yet and mix with other ground waters possibly that could contaminate it...things like that. Water from the artesian well comes deep within the different layers of the earth and the way it got there is mostly,uh, rainwater. When rainwater settles, you know, it'll go into the earth. Okay. That seems like the most natural process that God created. You know, even in the Bible, they drank from a well, they went deep down and got the water and there's just some I'm sure great filtration that happens in the earth that we probably just don't know about.

Shonda (15:16): I mean, they, I know that they've tried to duplicate those things in some systems with the carbon filter and with the sand filter and with these different things. But to just have it naturally happen... In the water that I chose, it just tastes so good to me that it was just no doubt about this was the water that I want to drink. Now it can get expensive, but in my mind, I was searching and searching and feeling ill. And so hospitals and doctors are expensive too. So I just choose to buy the water.

Patryce (15:49): I have to say that this water, most of the well waters, artesian, well, waters are labeled as alkaline. And I know for, you know, a while back, everything was trying to be labeled alkaline. It's alkaline... It's alkaline, but I want you to not be fooled by water just because it claims to be alkaline.

Patryce (16:11): This water... This artesian well is alkaline naturally from coming up from the deep, in the well of the earth. There are also companies that use the same purified, bottled water from the city tap, they reverse osmosis it and remove all the nutrients. And then they try to add nutrients back to make it alkaline. That reminds me of white rice. They've taken all the nutrients out, but they've enriched it with added vitamins because they know that food has nothing to offer. Yes, I am a proponent of whole grain brown rice versus white rice, especially on a regular basis. So the same thing with water, um, we want it to be natural. We want it in its natural state. We don't want to clean it all up and do all these things and remove it and then try to artificially add back minerals.

Patryce (17:11): Wow. That's very interesting. It seems as though there's a lot to learn about our water or just to be, make ourselves aware of and, and when we are, we're not sure we can ask for those reports or look at those reports, um, for our local water, just to, to know for ourselves, everything you just said. Um, and I'm, I'm just thankful that you have done a lot of this research for us so that we can go out there and take a look at that, um, document you created.

Shonda (17:43): Yeah. Yeah. Glad to share.

Patryce (17:45): I love that Shonda, this, the goal is to just make changes, even small changes towards a better lifestyle.

Shonda (17:58): Thanks for listening. We hope you enjoy today's podcast. Remember you can catch show notes and additional details at realfoodanddrinks.com under the podcast menu. Also subscribe to our podcastt if you aren't already a member of our community. And if listening through Anchor, please send us a messenge of topics you would like to hear us have conversations about until next time. Let's just be real.

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Drinking Tea for Health Benefits

I have to admit that I mostly drink tea when I’m looking to warm up on a cold winter’s night. So, yes, I mostly drink hot tea. Yet, tea can be enjoyed in a variety of ways and, likewise, there are so many varieties of tea. But most notably, we should be drinking tea for health reasons and its many benefits.

Black tea is what many of us are most familiar with. Some of us drink this tea when out at restaurants and some of us who make it at home using tea bags. In the South, like here in Houston, it’s know as sweet tea. Actually, though I’ve lived here my entire life, I didn’t become familiar with the term sweet tea until just a few years back. (In the community I grew up, sweet tea was replaced by Kool-aid, but that’s an aside, another topic for another day.)

Then there is green tea. Green tea originated in China. Today many westerners have adopted this tea into their diets specifically for its health benefits.  Green tea and black tea are both derived from the same plant, yet black tea is more oxidized. See article links below which explain the benefits of green and black tea and how tea is processed. 

But, today we will talk about other types of teas.

Roots, spices and plant teas for health benefits:

Roots, spices and plant leaves can be used to create tea also. Usually this is accomplished by heating/boiling water and allowing the substances to be infused into the water. The longer the infusion time, the stronger the tea. Similarly, a stronger tea can be made by using more of the root, spice or leaves.

On a recent podcast titled, “Immunity Series – Drinking Teas”, Patryce (my co-host) shared a few of her favorite teas and how they benefit our immune systems. Here are her findings.

Benefits of Drinking Teas

Burdock Root Tea

  • Heals the liver
  • Reduces inflammation
  • Improves hair health
  • Aids in healing of stomach disorders

Ginger Root Tea

  • Eases morning sicknesses
  • Eases period pains
  • Protects against cancer, heart disease and type-two diabetes

Rooibos (Red Bush)Tea

  • Rich in antioxidants
  • Aids in bone health
  • Improves digestive health

Peppermint Tea

  • Increases your energy
  • Increases brain oxygen levels
  • Enchances breathing functions
  • Relaxes muscles; even bronchial muscles
  • Eases indigestion


  • Rich in antioxidants
  • Bosts good HDL levels
  • Lowers bad LDL levels
  • Protects the liver
  • Anti-bacterial properties

Important Note: Only certain hibiscus plants can be used to make hibiscus tea. The flowers of H. sabdariffa and H. acetosella are commonly used when brewing hibiscus tea. (Source)

Tea Plants – More Information

Even though our focus in this article, and during our recent podcast, was on other types of teas other than the common tea plant, I’d like to point out that there are benefits to drinking these teas also.

“Tea, a popular beverage made from leaves of the plant Camellia sinensis, has been shown to reduce body weight, alleviate metabolic syndrome, and prevent diabetes and cardiovascular diseases in animal models and humans. Such beneficial effects have generally been observed in most human studies when the level of tea consumption was 3 to 4 cups (600–900 mg tea catechins) or more per day. Green tea is more effective than black tea.” – An abstract from PMC – US National Library of Medicine National Institutes of Health

(More about tea processing at Wikipedia.)

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Podcast Episode 3 – Immunity – Drinking Teas

This is the first in our “Immunity Series” of podcasts. In this episode we have a discussion about how drinking teas can help boost our immune systems. Tune in to learn a few interesting facts about herbal teas vs. the common tea varieties.

We invite you to listen and share your perspectives with us too. Send us a recorded message through Speakpipe. We may use your message in an upcoming episode. Leave your name if you would like it to be noted during the podcast. Leave an email address if you would like a personal response or feel free to use the contact form.

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Note: Future “Immunity Series” podcasts will not only include foods that boost our immune systems but various lifestyle practices that we can implement as well.

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Discussion transcript for Immunity Series – Drinking Teas:

Shonda (00:00): So we each decided on a topic and, uh, you chose tea and I chose water this week. We did do a little research. Uh, we want it to bring you some accurate facts about tea and water. So let's talk about what we learned this week.

Patryce (00:20): Super. I was surprised at how much I actually didn't know about one of my favorite drinks, tea. And so this was pretty, I, pretty revealing for me, just finding out some more details about tea and there's still, I'm sure a lot more to learn, but, uh, I did find out that tea is the most, second, most popular beverage in the world from a world standpoint, only second after water and, uh, in the U S it's not as popular as tea is around the world. Around the world people drink a lot more tea than we do in the U S

Shonda (01:01): Wow. Yeah. I usually just go for tea, hot tea, something peppermint. Usually if my stomach feels unsettled or want to have something to settle it and, you know, make it feel comforting. Um, I always go, I don't drink cold drinks. I always go for room temperature or hot.

Patryce (01:22): Wow. That's yeah, that's really good insight about how we have different tea habits, drinking of tea habits. And like you just point out, you prefer to drink it warm or hot tea. And in the U S a cold, he is very popular, cold ice tea, but your, your habits are more similar to around the world where they really do drink more hot tea or warm tea, and specifically herbal teas and Shonda. That's what I, I didn't really understand. There was a difference between herbal teas and non herbal, other than I prefer herbal teas. And I assume that they are better for you and good for you. And, and I did find that out that herbal teas, they provide a lot of nutrients and all teas are, a good source of hydration, but on top of that, the herbal teas provide the nutrients. And the main thing is that herbal teas are from an infusion of various non tea plants. So that prompted me to find out, okay, non tea plants. So that, I've found out that tea...the non honorable teas come from the two main types of tea plants. So there are tea, specifically tea plants, so that the non herbal.

Shonda (02:49): Yeah, that that's, that's very new information. I never, I never thought about there being a tea plant, you know, tea plants versus... Because all the teas that I drink are herbal teas, or like made with peppermint, or mint or things like that. And those obviously are not, um, tea plants. And then something else just came to mind is ... so the tea plants are really the ones that have the caffeine in them.

Patryce (03:18): True. Exactly. You, you know, you've heard probably there's black tea, green tea, white teas, and these all have caffeine. And I think they have different degrees of caffeine, but the bottom line, like you said, they do have caffeine. Whereas the herbal teas made from the non tea plants, non tea plants like flowers, herbs, spices, and other roots generally don't have caffeine. They're caffeine free.

Shonda (03:50): That's really good. Cause I, I do think of, uh, um, recently I've I've have you heard of, um, Pau D' Arco? I think that's how you pronounce it. It's like pine bark tea actually. Is that one of your research?

Patryce (04:05): It is not one, but I have had that at one time.

Shonda (04:09): I go for that one for respiratory. That's, I would say that that's one of my favorite to infuse, um, as a tea.

Patryce (04:19): Oh, wow. Yeah, I haven't done any research on that one, but I have, I have tasted it before and it's a more earthy tea. I found it very refreshing. It just a very earthy tea, but good to know that can help with respiratory. But one tea you did mention earlier that I did look at was peppermint tea. That's an fantastic tea, and you can, in America, we usually just buy our teas and tea bags, but also you can buy the peppermint itself and steep it to make the tea that way. And either way, the peppermint tea is a wonderful tea, and it has some benefits such as improving your, your, um, your energy, your power, and also enhancing breathing functions. And it's also been attributed to a relaxation of your bronchial muscles, increased brain oxygen levels, and, um, also, uh, muscle relaxing benefits as well. And I think a lot of people, I think you mentioned it, it can help ease your indigestion. So maybe after an especially heavy meal or something, didn't agree with you after having that meal, you might have some peppermint tea.

Shonda (05:40): This is so interesting because I think that we want to promote real food and real drinks. And so we want to share today that tea is a real drink and no matter which one we choose, it can be beneficial us in some way, you know, it's providing some nutrient or some benefit to our diet,

Patryce (06:04): exactly.

Shonda (06:04): So carry on.

Patryce (06:06): Well, and now that you brought that up, because it can be so beneficial, I also was reminded that we don't have to just make the tea and have a cup of tea, but you can also add the tea to your oatmeal or your smoothie or your soup broth and marinades. So the reason why I thought that was exciting, like you said, because of the nutritional benefits, you don't have to just drink it. You can add it, incorporate in to the preparation of your foods. So that was pretty exciting, but also, um, I have the top five that I picked out. There are lots of verbal teas, but there were five that I honed in on. And another one I'm sure you may have heard of is Chamomile, right? A lot of people drank Chamomile tea, and that is one that is, it generally has a very calming effect.

Patryce (07:00): So it might be something you want to drink before you go to bed and can actually help with your sleep, getting to sleep, and a better sleep. And then there's there, there's another tea called Burdock root. And that was interesting to me because I've actually eaten the Burdock root in a sandwich or a hand roll that they used to serve in Singapore. And Southeast Asia is pretty popular to have dishes with rice or hand roll made with a black or red rice. And then Burdock was one of the different items that you could put in it. But burdock root tea has a long list of health benefits like detoxifying the body, um, because it helps with healing the liver and preventing some chronic diseases, as well as reducing inflammation and just boosting the immune system overall, uh, that includes your respiratory infections, helping to heal those with the burdock root tea and also improving your hair health and stomach disorders. So there is like a lot of benefits to this particular tea made from the Burdock root.

Shonda (08:10): Hmm. Wow. So what does the burdock root tastes like when you had it in those, you know, sandwiches or wraps? Is it bitter?

Patryce (08:19): No, I didn't think it was bitter. It's definitely not. It's more on the savory side and it was like parsnip, if you can think of that, it's very interesting. It was cut up like, you know, how you get the match? What do you call them? The carrots. Those little sticks.

Shonda (08:40): Oh, like match sticks. Oh, okay. So is it a Burdock a root?

Patryce (08:46): It is burdock root.

Shonda (08:48): Okay. I was thinking more like a green plant.

Patryce (08:51): No, it's a root. So it's like a more white or off white color. So yeah, I haven't really seen it here, so I don't, it didn't have like a very pronounced taste. More on the mild side, but it was very tasty complemented with the rice, the carrots, even cucumbers, all those good things. So that was ... I'm going to be in search of Burdock root tea. I haven't found any or looked for it, but it will be in the feature. And then the third tea is ginger. And I think many of us are familiar with ginger, with our cooking and, uh, also sucking on ginger, if you've ever... People sometimes when you're pregnant, you're suffering from morning sickness. And just anytime you feel nauseated, ginger is a very good go-to. So ginger tea could be something that can help greatly with that morning sickness or being nauseated or motion sickness tooo ginger sipping on some ginger tea can help with those, um, times when you're suffering from those things. And also, I didn't realize it can help ease your period pains. So it also supports our immunity overall. And there are studies that show that can help protect against cancer, heart disease, as well as type two diabetes. So that was all very, very interesting and exciting ways that we can prevent ... help with prevention of diseases.

Shonda (10:23): Right. And let's remind our community that we're talking about. Um, we're just talking about tea and water today, but the goal is to use all these foods together in combination to, uh, help build our immune system. So we, we can't, uh, ever just look at one specific thing and say, that's going to be our cure. We're talking about real food, real drinks and the lifestyle, which means that we want to incorporate all these things into healthy living. [Great.] So go ahead. I just wanted to let everyone remind everyone about that.

Patryce (11:00): Yeah, that's a great reminder. There's a fourth tea. Hibiscus tea is another super tea to drink, and many of us probably are familiar with the Hibiscus plant. We actually have one in our front yard that has those beautiful flowers. Well, this beautiful plant, you can drink the Hibiscus tea from those, um, from, from the hibiscus plant, you can get Hibiscus tea and it tastes somewhat like cranberries.

Shonda (11:33): Wow. Are you saying that any Hibiscus plant, I can go make into a tea that there isn't like a specific one that is, you know, used or I don't know, like some mushrooms that grow wild they're poisonous and some, you know, are beneficial. So ...

Patryce (11:50): That's a great point. Shonda. I would not, I'm not advocating we go out and get the Hibiscus leaves from our plants outside that's... We don't know. That's a good point. I have always purchased my Hibiscus tea. And, um, I do know people who have purchased the actual, um, plant. Oh, well, they've the leaves, the dried leaves. You can do that, but yes, make sure you check that out. You purchase it, uh, from a, uh, a reliable source and yeah, I would not just go and harvest it from our own plants. That's a very good point. Yeah. We'll have to look that up. But from the high biscuits, um, leaves that you've purchased or the tea bags, you, um, there are some benefits from drinking that tea and some of them are that they're rich in antioxidants and may boost your good HDL levels and lower, bad LDL cholesterol and triglycerides for people with diabetes. And it also helps to protect the liver and promote weight loss. And the last cool thing I wanted to mention is I read that it helps support immunity through its antibacterial potency. I did not realize that.

Shonda (13:09): No, no, I didn't at all. And, you know, I liked the sweet taste of, of, uh, Hibiscus tea. I think it has like a little tangy -ness or whatever to it. And normally when I'm having tea, I, uh, I do use some, um, some Stevia in my tea, like one or two drops. Uh, I don't know, I just don't go for sugar. But it's, it has a really nice balance with that little bit of sweetness and, you know, and the, yeah, it's kind of tangy, I guess it's tropical, you know, it was kind of citrusy

Patryce (13:44): And some people have compared it to be similar to cranberries, but, um, I don't think it's overly tart, but it does remind you a bit of that, but it's a very, it's a lovely tea to drink. So that tea and the there's another tea called Rooibos commonly referred to as red or red Bush tea. So instead of the Rooibos' name, you might just see it also advertised as red, Bush tea or red tea. And it comes from the leaves of a shrub native to South Africa. And it's another tea, another herbal tea that's loaded with antioxidants as well as anti inflammatory compounds. And it has been linked to uh bone health protection and improved digestive health as well as obesity prevention. Yeah. And yeah, like you, I'm glad you gave us that reminder earlier that we're not saying, Oh, you just drink these teas and it's a cure all no, but it's to compliment the overall lifestyle of healthy eating and choosing to be intentional about what we decide to eat and drink. One other thing it said about this tea was that in small amounts, they have found that to contain iron calcium, potassium, copper and magnesium, zinc and mag, well, just a lot of minerals. So that's pretty cool.

Shonda (15:19): Yeah. I think that's something surprising about all the herbal plants and especially when they are infused in water. I mean, they are very, I guess, potent, they're powerful, they're powerful antioxidants that do go a long way with, um, such little bit, you know, small amounts do go a long way.

Patryce (15:43): That's a very good point. And like you said, infused in water. So that's why I'm excited to learn more about, well, what water is the best water to drink, or what should I be looking into when I consider the water that I'm drinking?

Shonda (15:57): So that wraps up our discussion about tea. Next time we will be discussing water and how it can help boost your immune system.

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